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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by James Greenidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Greenidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 04:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great de-panicking and de-bunking on &quot;Beautiful Truth,&quot; Will! How ironic that nuclear energy is being hung to dry for death and destruction that never happened! I guess people feel easier with fuel sources that cause millions of cases of respiratory aliments and pollution and greenhouse gases and horrific lethal accidents on a regular basis! (that people think that way IS scary!) Next up at bat -- Rod Adams please! :)  I only regret that they didn&#039;t set you up toe-to-toe with Arnie or Helen!

James Greenidge
Queens NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great de-panicking and de-bunking on &#8220;Beautiful Truth,&#8221; Will! How ironic that nuclear energy is being hung to dry for death and destruction that never happened! I guess people feel easier with fuel sources that cause millions of cases of respiratory aliments and pollution and greenhouse gases and horrific lethal accidents on a regular basis! (that people think that way IS scary!) Next up at bat &#8212; Rod Adams please! <img src='http://ansnuclearcafe.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I only regret that they didn&#8217;t set you up toe-to-toe with Arnie or Helen!</p>
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Queens NY</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Wayne SW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne SW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 03:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;... of 4 buildings that they can’t even go inside of are bulletproof. &lt;/i&gt;

Did you even read the article?  Unit 4 is completely accessible.  Since the reactor was defueled there is no damage to the reacrtor core.  Debris from the earthquake/tsunami/hdrogen detonations has been cleared to the point of allowing access.  They have been able to get in there and take video of the SFP and it shows everything is in place and undamaged.  There is no thermal (burning) damage to the pool.  The pool did not go dry.  The fuel assemblies did not &quot;burn&quot;.  They were able to do a structural evaluation and place very substantial additional supports and strengthen all of the support members.  The SPF has withstood sizable aftershocks that hit the area with no damage.

&lt;i&gt;As if Brookhaven National Laboratory, in 2009, somehow simulated a 9.0 earthquake destroying a reactor building that had ALL of its active AND spent fuel rods in the cooling pond which was also blown up and their assessment of the ‘risk of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure’&lt;/i&gt;

Pictures were taken of SFP4 and they show the pool to be intact and undamaged.  It did not &quot;catch fire&quot;.  It did not &quot;blow up&quot;.  It did not &quot;dry out&quot;.  All of the fuel assemblies are in place as they should be and show no damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230; of 4 buildings that they can’t even go inside of are bulletproof. </i></p>
<p>Did you even read the article?  Unit 4 is completely accessible.  Since the reactor was defueled there is no damage to the reacrtor core.  Debris from the earthquake/tsunami/hdrogen detonations has been cleared to the point of allowing access.  They have been able to get in there and take video of the SFP and it shows everything is in place and undamaged.  There is no thermal (burning) damage to the pool.  The pool did not go dry.  The fuel assemblies did not &#8220;burn&#8221;.  They were able to do a structural evaluation and place very substantial additional supports and strengthen all of the support members.  The SPF has withstood sizable aftershocks that hit the area with no damage.</p>
<p><i>As if Brookhaven National Laboratory, in 2009, somehow simulated a 9.0 earthquake destroying a reactor building that had ALL of its active AND spent fuel rods in the cooling pond which was also blown up and their assessment of the ‘risk of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure’</i></p>
<p>Pictures were taken of SFP4 and they show the pool to be intact and undamaged.  It did not &#8220;catch fire&#8221;.  It did not &#8220;blow up&#8221;.  It did not &#8220;dry out&#8221;.  All of the fuel assemblies are in place as they should be and show no damage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Will Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Devon:  &quot;Fissioning of water?&quot;  And the spent fuel in No. 4 &quot;already caught fire once?&quot;   And an earthquake already happened that toppled the buildings?  When did I miss that one - they&#039;re still standing.  Sir, you need to do some more research, using better sources who have better information and knowledge of what they&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Devon:  &#8220;Fissioning of water?&#8221;  And the spent fuel in No. 4 &#8220;already caught fire once?&#8221;   And an earthquake already happened that toppled the buildings?  When did I miss that one &#8211; they&#8217;re still standing.  Sir, you need to do some more research, using better sources who have better information and knowledge of what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Paul Lindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a regular guest on the News NM radio show on Thursday mornings from 8-8:30 am. I&#039;ll be discussing this article tomorrow, May 17th. 
http://newsnm.com/
http://www.facebook.com/newsnewmexico</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a regular guest on the News NM radio show on Thursday mornings from 8-8:30 am. I&#8217;ll be discussing this article tomorrow, May 17th.<br />
<a href="http://newsnm.com/">http://newsnm.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/newsnewmexico">http://www.facebook.com/newsnewmexico</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Tom Keiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Keiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of rhetorical rigor, contravening citations, etc. in the opposing comments provide notable examples of how alarmist pseudoscience--and raw assertion--fill the public vacuum of understanding with regard to highly-complex, technical topics.  This presentation of factual, peer-reviewed evidence, soundly debunking these absurdly improbable, unfounded claims, is a commendable public service.

Truly, the danger to the public caused by surreptitiously-biased, fear-mongering editorial--masquerading as objective reporting--vastly outweighs any danger hypothesized by legitimate and rigorous risk assessments of future earthquakes at the 1F site.  The way forward is to continually enlighten the public (with articles such as this): cite the facts, debunk the myths, teach the merits of objective risk evaluation, and, gradually, the impalpability of nuclear technology will fade--along with the credibility of the alarmist propaganda of its detractors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of rhetorical rigor, contravening citations, etc. in the opposing comments provide notable examples of how alarmist pseudoscience&#8211;and raw assertion&#8211;fill the public vacuum of understanding with regard to highly-complex, technical topics.  This presentation of factual, peer-reviewed evidence, soundly debunking these absurdly improbable, unfounded claims, is a commendable public service.</p>
<p>Truly, the danger to the public caused by surreptitiously-biased, fear-mongering editorial&#8211;masquerading as objective reporting&#8211;vastly outweighs any danger hypothesized by legitimate and rigorous risk assessments of future earthquakes at the 1F site.  The way forward is to continually enlighten the public (with articles such as this): cite the facts, debunk the myths, teach the merits of objective risk evaluation, and, gradually, the impalpability of nuclear technology will fade&#8211;along with the credibility of the alarmist propaganda of its detractors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what is worse. The hysterical fantasy some corners claiming unit 4&#039;s fuel is going to explode and make the northern hemisphere uninhabitable (among other strange scenarios) are bad. So is grossly understating the situation. TEPCO made some huge multiple assumptions in their seismic analysis and admit it is largely based on photos taken not actual inspections. This is the extent of what they have made public. Unit 4 isn&#039;t completely out of the woods. It also isn&#039;t falling down any second. The claim that fuel rods spilled on the ground would not be  major problem is a bit unrealistic. Are you volunteering to head in there and set up watering or other remediation? How long are you going to pour water on the mess making even more contaminated water there is no room for. Or dump sand on it. Then what?  But all of this is based on what TEPCO will publicly admit. Seriously. TEPCO. This is as bad as the hysterical conspiracies. A pox on both your houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what is worse. The hysterical fantasy some corners claiming unit 4&#8242;s fuel is going to explode and make the northern hemisphere uninhabitable (among other strange scenarios) are bad. So is grossly understating the situation. TEPCO made some huge multiple assumptions in their seismic analysis and admit it is largely based on photos taken not actual inspections. This is the extent of what they have made public. Unit 4 isn&#8217;t completely out of the woods. It also isn&#8217;t falling down any second. The claim that fuel rods spilled on the ground would not be  major problem is a bit unrealistic. Are you volunteering to head in there and set up watering or other remediation? How long are you going to pour water on the mess making even more contaminated water there is no room for. Or dump sand on it. Then what?  But all of this is based on what TEPCO will publicly admit. Seriously. TEPCO. This is as bad as the hysterical conspiracies. A pox on both your houses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Joffan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joffan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesson from Chernobyl was that the danger to the public can indeed be overstated, to the point where it becomes the major cause of suffering. Anybondy who has read the WHO report understands that very clearly. It is tragic to see some of the same mistakes of wild overconservatism being repeated after Fukushima - for example, long-term and indiscriminate evacuation - without regard for the very real consequences that such drastic measures carry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson from Chernobyl was that the danger to the public can indeed be overstated, to the point where it becomes the major cause of suffering. Anybondy who has read the WHO report understands that very clearly. It is tragic to see some of the same mistakes of wild overconservatism being repeated after Fukushima &#8211; for example, long-term and indiscriminate evacuation &#8211; without regard for the very real consequences that such drastic measures carry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Fintan Dunne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fintan Dunne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Davis has kindly appeared as a guest on our net radio show to discuss and elaborate on the analysis above. 

Listen at:
http://bit.ly/SpentFuelNuclearScare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Davis has kindly appeared as a guest on our net radio show to discuss and elaborate on the analysis above. </p>
<p>Listen at:<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/SpentFuelNuclearScare">http://bit.ly/SpentFuelNuclearScare</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your entire justification of why things can&#039;t worse is based around a sizable seismic event being &#039;impossible.&#039; 

...the same kind of event which occurred just last year. 

You also seem to think that TEPCO&#039;s (who has had a very solid history of covering their own ass over the last year) seismic surveys of 4 buildings that they can&#039;t even go inside of are bulletproof. 

Tepco themselves have little to no idea what is happening under their own melted through reactors. How they could perform a comprehensive seismic survey of their damaged buildings I have no idea. 


Then you reference &quot;NUREG /CR-4982, “Severe Accidents in Spent Fuel Pools in support of Generic Safety Issue 82,” to say &quot;Brookhaven National Laboratory, indicates that the likelihood of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure may be as low as 1 X 10-10 occurrences per reactor year, which is a statistically insignificant rate of occurrence.&quot; 

As if Brookhaven National Laboratory, in 2009, somehow simulated a 9.0 earthquake destroying a reactor building that had ALL of its active AND spent fuel rods in the cooling pond which was also blown up and their assessment of the &#039;risk of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure&#039;

....that report has no relevance to the situation whatsoever. 
Assertion 1: Still exists 

Assertion 2: Was the same as assertion 1 

Assertion 3 is based upon on assertion 1 being bulletproof, which has already been shown to be silly. 

Of course the rods aren&#039;t going to spontaneously catch fire. As you yourself say, they&#039;ll only catch fire if they stop getting watered. No shit. 


This one had me laughing... &quot;Further, even under the wild assumption that the buildings somehow collapsed, all of the other resources on site, and remotely off site, are still available to move in and provide cooling for the fuel.&quot; 

As if the resources on site would be able to get close enough to the collapsed radioactive mess that they&#039;d be effective.  And that&#039;s when the fire would start.


On the cladding comment... the fuel has already completley melted the cladding in at least a couple of the reactors.   Melt-through has been acknowledged by TEPCO (after months of lying about it.)  



&quot;In addition, in order for a “cataclysmic” spread of the radionuclides contained in this spent fuel to occur, we can see that a massive fire is needed to both release the material and provide a driving head (or “loft”) to spread it to the winds. It’s clear that no such fire is possible, given the above information. The assertions simply fall apart. Assertion 3: False&quot; 

It could be a fire. It could be an explosion produced by the fissioning of water due to fuel that wasn&#039;t being cooled due to a seismic event.  The fuel in spent pool 4 already caught fire once, on March 17, 2011.


Basically, your entire argument rests on the fact that such an earthquake that would destabilize these buildings is &#039;impossible.&#039; (Already happened.) and that the things wouldn&#039;t catch fire even if they collapsed because the cooling systems are bulletproof. (Already failed, when they were not cobbled together like so many legos in the dark.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your entire justification of why things can&#8217;t worse is based around a sizable seismic event being &#8216;impossible.&#8217; </p>
<p>&#8230;the same kind of event which occurred just last year. </p>
<p>You also seem to think that TEPCO&#8217;s (who has had a very solid history of covering their own ass over the last year) seismic surveys of 4 buildings that they can&#8217;t even go inside of are bulletproof. </p>
<p>Tepco themselves have little to no idea what is happening under their own melted through reactors. How they could perform a comprehensive seismic survey of their damaged buildings I have no idea. </p>
<p>Then you reference &#8220;NUREG /CR-4982, “Severe Accidents in Spent Fuel Pools in support of Generic Safety Issue 82,” to say &#8220;Brookhaven National Laboratory, indicates that the likelihood of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure may be as low as 1 X 10-10 occurrences per reactor year, which is a statistically insignificant rate of occurrence.&#8221; </p>
<p>As if Brookhaven National Laboratory, in 2009, somehow simulated a 9.0 earthquake destroying a reactor building that had ALL of its active AND spent fuel rods in the cooling pond which was also blown up and their assessment of the &#8216;risk of seismically induced spent fuel pool failure&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8230;.that report has no relevance to the situation whatsoever.<br />
Assertion 1: Still exists </p>
<p>Assertion 2: Was the same as assertion 1 </p>
<p>Assertion 3 is based upon on assertion 1 being bulletproof, which has already been shown to be silly. </p>
<p>Of course the rods aren&#8217;t going to spontaneously catch fire. As you yourself say, they&#8217;ll only catch fire if they stop getting watered. No shit. </p>
<p>This one had me laughing&#8230; &#8220;Further, even under the wild assumption that the buildings somehow collapsed, all of the other resources on site, and remotely off site, are still available to move in and provide cooling for the fuel.&#8221; </p>
<p>As if the resources on site would be able to get close enough to the collapsed radioactive mess that they&#8217;d be effective.  And that&#8217;s when the fire would start.</p>
<p>On the cladding comment&#8230; the fuel has already completley melted the cladding in at least a couple of the reactors.   Melt-through has been acknowledged by TEPCO (after months of lying about it.)  </p>
<p>&#8220;In addition, in order for a “cataclysmic” spread of the radionuclides contained in this spent fuel to occur, we can see that a massive fire is needed to both release the material and provide a driving head (or “loft”) to spread it to the winds. It’s clear that no such fire is possible, given the above information. The assertions simply fall apart. Assertion 3: False&#8221; </p>
<p>It could be a fire. It could be an explosion produced by the fissioning of water due to fuel that wasn&#8217;t being cooled due to a seismic event.  The fuel in spent pool 4 already caught fire once, on March 17, 2011.</p>
<p>Basically, your entire argument rests on the fact that such an earthquake that would destabilize these buildings is &#8216;impossible.&#8217; (Already happened.) and that the things wouldn&#8217;t catch fire even if they collapsed because the cooling systems are bulletproof. (Already failed, when they were not cobbled together like so many legos in the dark.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Anti Rumor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti Rumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the article. How would you counter their (Alvarez, Gundersen, Koide, etc.) declaration without solid evidence that Unit 4 is &quot;listing&quot;, &quot;tilting like the Tower of Pisa&quot;, and that when the unit collapses in even a minor earthquake it&#039;s the end of the world?

It seems all they have is blurry photos, &quot;Japanese experts&#039; words&quot; (they are not known inside Japan), and &quot;TEPCO lies&quot;. It doesn&#039;t even look like a scientific argument, but that&#039;s the bad meme circling the globe, constantly reinforced by the likes of Gundersen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the article. How would you counter their (Alvarez, Gundersen, Koide, etc.) declaration without solid evidence that Unit 4 is &#8220;listing&#8221;, &#8220;tilting like the Tower of Pisa&#8221;, and that when the unit collapses in even a minor earthquake it&#8217;s the end of the world?</p>
<p>It seems all they have is blurry photos, &#8220;Japanese experts&#8217; words&#8221; (they are not known inside Japan), and &#8220;TEPCO lies&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t even look like a scientific argument, but that&#8217;s the bad meme circling the globe, constantly reinforced by the likes of Gundersen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Geoff Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, do you eat meat? Do you feed it to your children? The World Cancer Research Fund&#039;s 2007 report by 150+ experts was crystal clear ... red and processed meats cause bowel cancer. Before the Japanese increase the red and processed meat in their diet they had about 20,000 new bowel cancers every year. Now they are running at 110,000 new cases annually ... and you are worried about radiation? Compared to red and processed meat (or alcohol or tobacco), radiation is a cancer wimp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, do you eat meat? Do you feed it to your children? The World Cancer Research Fund&#8217;s 2007 report by 150+ experts was crystal clear &#8230; red and processed meats cause bowel cancer. Before the Japanese increase the red and processed meat in their diet they had about 20,000 new bowel cancers every year. Now they are running at 110,000 new cases annually &#8230; and you are worried about radiation? Compared to red and processed meat (or alcohol or tobacco), radiation is a cancer wimp.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article that gives a bit of balance to some of the more extreme statements that are out there. Unfortunately, I think the problem you will face is a lack of trust.

Had we asked about the safety of Fukushima prior to the accident, we would likely have been told it was safe, that tsunami protection was adequate and safety systems were in place. Even at the time it was obvious to  many outsiders that it was not a great idea to build plants in such an active area. Now meltdowns have occurred and pollution has been released across large portions of Japan.

Given this history, many people are incredibly suspicious of any statement from the nuclear industry. Quoting Tepco safety checks saying the building is safe will not reassure; it will come across to many like standing in a titanic life raft and saying it is unsinkable!

How the two sides of this argument can come together with a degree of trust to enable the correct decisions about energy policy is not clear. There are clearly risks with nuclear power, but the alternatives aren&#039;t pain free either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article that gives a bit of balance to some of the more extreme statements that are out there. Unfortunately, I think the problem you will face is a lack of trust.</p>
<p>Had we asked about the safety of Fukushima prior to the accident, we would likely have been told it was safe, that tsunami protection was adequate and safety systems were in place. Even at the time it was obvious to  many outsiders that it was not a great idea to build plants in such an active area. Now meltdowns have occurred and pollution has been released across large portions of Japan.</p>
<p>Given this history, many people are incredibly suspicious of any statement from the nuclear industry. Quoting Tepco safety checks saying the building is safe will not reassure; it will come across to many like standing in a titanic life raft and saying it is unsinkable!</p>
<p>How the two sides of this argument can come together with a degree of trust to enable the correct decisions about energy policy is not clear. There are clearly risks with nuclear power, but the alternatives aren&#8217;t pain free either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Will Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mel:  You have seen in the report above the result of responsible reporting.  It has been presented to counter irresponsible, inaccurate reports that have led to wide-spread unjustified fear.   The public risk from the spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi has been widely overblown; the report clearly indicates what the facts are.  If you follow the links you will see what TEPCO has done, and is doing, on site, and perhaps have a bit more faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mel:  You have seen in the report above the result of responsible reporting.  It has been presented to counter irresponsible, inaccurate reports that have led to wide-spread unjustified fear.   The public risk from the spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi has been widely overblown; the report clearly indicates what the facts are.  If you follow the links you will see what TEPCO has done, and is doing, on site, and perhaps have a bit more faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Twominds</title>
		<link>http://ansnuclearcafe.org/2012/05/16/spent-fuel-at-fukushima-not-dangerous/#comment-20744</link>
		<dc:creator>Twominds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mel Serrano

Danger to the public can be overstated very easily, not only in this subject, but in any subject of public matter. It usually means regulations that are not useful and money spent where it has no effect. When danger is neither overstated nor understated the measures that work best can be taken. Otherwise the assessment in itself becomes a barrier to taking the best measures in a given situation.

About lessons learned, that&#039;s not the subject of this article, so that&#039;s a false argument here.</description>
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<p>Danger to the public can be overstated very easily, not only in this subject, but in any subject of public matter. It usually means regulations that are not useful and money spent where it has no effect. When danger is neither overstated nor understated the measures that work best can be taken. Otherwise the assessment in itself becomes a barrier to taking the best measures in a given situation.</p>
<p>About lessons learned, that&#8217;s not the subject of this article, so that&#8217;s a false argument here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spent fuel at Fukushima Daiichi safer than asserted by Mel Serrano</title>
		<link>http://ansnuclearcafe.org/2012/05/16/spent-fuel-at-fukushima-not-dangerous/#comment-20742</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel Serrano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The danger to the public cannot be overstated. By stating that the risks of a collapse of containment pools is virtually non-existent, is very irresponsible. The builders of the plant, and regulatory agencies must have been very confident that the chances of a large earthquake offshore, and a devastating tsunami were remote.  But, look what happened. Were no lessons learned here? From the tone of the article, I would have to say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The danger to the public cannot be overstated. By stating that the risks of a collapse of containment pools is virtually non-existent, is very irresponsible. The builders of the plant, and regulatory agencies must have been very confident that the chances of a large earthquake offshore, and a devastating tsunami were remote.  But, look what happened. Were no lessons learned here? From the tone of the article, I would have to say no.</p>
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